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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07   #1
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Default Hard Mode fixes? hmm.

Generating intrest in Hard Mode!

1) Please give low level green items a Hard Mode counterpart that is Max. Probably not that important but it would be a little less discouraging when you get one. Perhaps named Lesser and Greater to inhibit scam attempts. Good idea Askani

2) Also, How about adding an Vanquish chest for areas of over 100 or 200 creatures? Maybe spawn a boss after vanquish that will trigger the chest when he dies??

A vanquish chest would have been nice for Snake Dance and/or Lonars Pass. ! /rant

3) Add greens to Proph bosses in HM <OK! NO GREENS!! lol! but Increase chances of bosses dropping lockpicks and/or scrolls and tomes (again HM only)! at least!

4) STOP setting me back to Normal Mode after I visit my Guild Hall. please!

5) Have ability to merch items on maps. Since I highly doubt they'd add NPCs to the game, how about an update that allows us to sell drops to Collectors and Material crafters, since nearly every map has at least one. Good Idea mike. I just had this problem.

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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11   #2
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Some are nice. At the #2, I'd suggest the higher the foes the bigger the reward is in the chest. But idd after vanquishing there should spawn a chest.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:18 PM // 16:18   #3
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1) Please give low level green items a Hard Mode counterpart that is Max. Probably not that important but it would be a little less discouraging when you get one.

2) Also, How about adding an Vanquish chest for areas of over 100 or 200 creatures? Maybe spawn a boss after vanquish that will trigger the chest when he dies??

A vanquish chest would have been nice for Snake Dance and/or Lonars Pass. ! /rant

3) Add greens to Proph bosses in HM

4) STOP setting me back to Normal Mode after I visit my Guild Hall. please
1. It's indeed pretty dumb to recieve a non-max green while vanquishing. /signed

2. Vanquishing could use slightly better rewards yes. /signed

3. More max damage, perfect modded greens? sure. /signed

4. /SIGNED !
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:22 PM // 16:22   #4
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I agree with you on all points, except I am a bit skeptical about adding greens.

We really don't need the price of greens to go down anymore by making replica modded greens an easy farm.

On all others, /sign
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39   #5
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1 /sign
2 /sign
3 /not sign. there is one green for every mod for every weapon really, they're mostly <5k... I don't think there's much need for it to be honest.
4 /sign. i thought this was a bug fix at first... was does it go to NM!?

good ideas. Everlong.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #6
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1) You would have to add a whole set of greens with different names or you risk scamming. Prob not worth it.

2) You already get a reward based on the number you vanquish, I see no reason to add another reward, except maybe improving the gold reward a bit.

3) No opinion, although doubtful it would happen.

4) It may be that since the guild hall is on the PvP Island (Cant remember the name atm) it doesn't have a HM. I haven't paid much attention but I don't think there is a HM toggle there, in which case when you go back to a PvE outpost you are defaulted to NM. This may not be changeable.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41   #7
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1. As long as the 'low-level' counterparts are renamed with a 'Lesser <Item name>':

Lesser Jin's Hornbow
Piercing damage: 10-16 (Requires 5 Marksmanship)
Damage +10%
Armor -10 (while attacking)
Lengthens Bleeding duration on foes by 33% (Stacking)
Health +15

Jin's Hornbow
Piercing damage: 15-28 (Requires 9 Marksmanship)
Damage +15%
Armor -10 (while attacking)
Lengthens Bleeding duration on foes by 33% (Stacking)
Health +30

2. It could just be an unlocked chest. There is a place that well deserves it, at least: Majestic Rest. It could be a 'Rotten Chest', that spawns after vanquishing the area (Not just killing RotScale)

3. There are some Bosses that do not have green items, like the Afflited Bosses, but all of them should have... maybe with Normal and Hard counterparts like suggestion 1 says.

4. Yeah, it's annoying.

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Old Jan 15, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #8
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I really do agree with 2, this makes some places very very interesting to vanquish!

1+2+4 /signed
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16   #9
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There's another thread around here somewhere that suggested adding Vanquishing chests to areas. The thread dissolved into a ruckus about whether:
A. The chest should be 1 time only or everytime you vanquish
B. What about easy or glitched areas with only 1 or 2 enemies to kill?

I still think it's a good idea. Add a vanquishing chest to every area and scale the rewards in the chest according to how many monsters were killed:
Vanquished 1-10 enemies: Chest drops 1g to 5g
Vanquished 11-50 enemies: Chest drops 20g to 100g or a bad purple.
Vanquished 50-100 enemies: Chest drops a common gold
Vanquished 100-200 enemies: Chest drops a random gold or nice rare material.
Vanquished 200+: Chest is similiar to HoH chest. Can drop any max gold related to the campaign vanquished or a small chance for a rare mini.


I don't care for the extra greens idea. We have too many greens now.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18   #10
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/Signed to all. Anything to make Vanquishing more worth it and get more people involved. I'm fortunate to have a guild that likes doing it, but others aren't so lucky.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #11
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Only one I'd /sign is the one about the vanquisher chest, and there's already a thread for that.

I don't see a point to anything else.
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29   #12
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1)/ Signed
2)/Notsigned Vanquish is not an elite area like UW or FoW
3)/Signed
4)/Signed for god's sake
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #13
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Vanquished 200+: Chest is similiar to HoH chest. Can drop any max gold related to the campaign vanquished or a small chance for a rare mini.
I don't really care about Rare Crafting Mats or a decent Gold here and there, but please, don't give out rare minis for something that takes little skill to accomplish.

IMO

Winning HoH > Vanquishing some area outside Kamadan or Ascalon
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29   #14
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/signed to everything

I love this suggestion.
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38   #15
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how about adding a merchant into most explorable areas? worse than having full bags ^^ and getting loads more drops
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21   #16
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There's another thread around here somewhere that suggested adding Vanquishing chests to areas. The thread dissolved into a ruckus about whether:
A. The chest should be 1 time only or everytime you vanquish
B. What about easy or glitched areas with only 1 or 2 enemies to kill?

I still think it's a good idea. Add a vanquishing chest to every area and scale the rewards in the chest according to how many monsters were killed:
Vanquished 1-10 enemies: Chest drops 1g to 5g
Vanquished 11-50 enemies: Chest drops 20g to 100g or a bad purple.
Vanquished 50-100 enemies: Chest drops a common gold
Vanquished 100-200 enemies: Chest drops a random gold or nice rare material.
Vanquished 200+: Chest is similiar to HoH chest. Can drop any max gold related to the campaign vanquished or a small chance for a rare mini.


I don't care for the extra greens idea. We have too many greens now.
Peoples will abuse the ares with 200+ monsters as its FAR easier than in HA to get the chest. So the last idea is a BIG no no.
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01   #17
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Peoples will abuse the ares with 200+ monsters as its FAR easier than in HA to get the chest. So the last idea is a BIG no no.
How is it possible to abuse an area where you would have to score 200+ kills to get the chest to spawn? It takes a fair amount of time to get 200 or better kills. Dungeon chests can have a chance for decent drops and most are not difficult at all to reach and you certainly don't have to get 200+ kills to reach them either.
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59   #18
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How is it possible to abuse an area where you would have to score 200+ kills to get the chest to spawn? It takes a fair amount of time to get 200 or better kills. Dungeon chests can have a chance for decent drops and most are not difficult at all to reach and you certainly don't have to get 200+ kills to reach them either.
Istan Island some areas there have 200 enemies + i think, takes around an hour to do an area, also one or 2 parts allow you to bring in 6 to an area that was designed for 4, if i remember correctly, not much effort required imo.
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15   #19
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Still wouldn't convince me that it would be a market breaking mechanic. The market is broken as it is anyway. Its far too easy to get a green that you need or buy it cheap. max9 golds are everywhere and are often merched as people can't stand waiting around for hours trying to get buyers that will only pay 1 or 2k for them. BMP made is easy as button mashing to get max9 stuff. Even the upgrade componants are cheap. 1.5k for 15^50 inscriptions!?

lets see 1k max9 axe
1.5k 15^50 incription
3k 20/20 sundering axe haft
3k +30 Health axe grip

axe is worth.. 8k. and this is based on prices I was getting in LA last night.
Only high end ultra rare skins are worth anything at all. unless you deal in minis or tomes. You won't be makin squat. Fill vault page with max stuff, sell all for 20k.

Point is the economy in GW works great for being able to afford stuff you need. Better than ever in fact. But, selling stuff now, LOL! Everyday I try to sell the 40+ items I have that are worth selling.. everyday I sell 1 or 2.. Yesterday was a very good day, I let of 5 items! The economy sucks, let more items in and just merch everything you don't want/need/use.
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51   #20
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How is it possible to abuse an area where you would have to score 200+ kills to get the chest to spawn? It takes a fair amount of time to get 200 or better kills. Dungeon chests can have a chance for decent drops and most are not difficult at all to reach and you certainly don't have to get 200+ kills to reach them either.
Not only is it the spawn, but, just think about it.

Which is easier, killing 200+ PvE monsters, or winning the Hall of Heroes? Count the amount of people that have killed 200+ HM Monsters, then count the number of people that have won Halls. It would be abused by the fact you're getting the same reward for something that is far easier than actually earning it.
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